What is Your Favorite Pre Spray?

tricitycleantech 2015-10-06 16:04:56 UTC #1

We need a thread like this at least once a year, lol

Here are the categories:
1, HWE (Hot Water Extraction) you get two favorites, one normal cleaner and one Nuke
2. VLM (Very Low Moisture)

For me...HWE SO (Soils and Oils) for every day work, and for high PH nuke work...I like Grease Eraser.

been using various other products for quite a while now (using up the last of my two 5 gallon buckets of powders) so after going with out the above two products for a long time has just given me a greater appreciation for them,

VLM, Procyon Extreme, also makes a great HWE pre-spray, Note: My VLM cleaning is done with cotton pads, if I were out there scrubbing and running I would go with Soils and Oils encap.

I find when you are trying to pull as much soil as possible with an absorbent pad, it helps tremendously to have a non-foaming pre-spray.

Anyways, let the pre-spay war start.

Jonathan 2015-10-06 18:22:41 UTC #2

Mine is way easy. I use SOE for both HWE and VLM and then boost as needed with either ammonia, peroxide or d-limonene depending on the fiber and soiling conditions.

anon32632513 2015-10-07 22:25:15 UTC #3

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Ryan 2015-10-08 01:12:22 UTC #4

Our everyday prespray is Soils N Oils. I go for the free shipping, monthly payment 55 gallon drum.

When we need a little extra kick to for the Soils N Oils, we add delime and peroxide.

For the nasty stuff we use Grease Eraser.

I will order some other stuff occasionally just to keep up on industry innovating.

oxieco 2015-10-08 04:30:42 UTC #5

For HWE I use SOils and Oils or Slop and Gobble (my nuke).

VLM is Soils and Oils Encap.

oxieco 2015-10-08 04:33:34 UTC #6

Jonathan, I like your method. Nice and simple. So do you find you don't even need Soils and Oils (with its more foamy action)?

Jonathan 2015-10-08 17:48:06 UTC #7

@oxieco Correct. All I use Soil & Oils Encap.

oxieco 2015-10-09 03:05:48 UTC #8

Love it, Jonathan, I would really like to simplify like that..

roland 2015-10-17 15:27:58 UTC #9

for my nuke, I use a 50/50 mix of bio-break and flex citrus followed by flex ice rinse.
Right now, I'm trying to decide between the soils and oils or procyon for my normal hwe and VLM.

Ryan 2015-10-17 15:41:41 UTC #10

I have both Soils N Oils and Procyon. You will have wider spectum of cleaning ability with S/O.

whitegloveclean 2015-10-17 16:33:08 UTC #11

Definitely S&O. Works like a charm

todd 2015-10-17 19:54:49 UTC #12

I'm mostly VLM and have tried, tested, and experimented with just about every encap product out there and keep coming back to SOE. I really like the way it cleans and nothing crystallizes like SOE does. In the rare instance it's not cutting it I'll pre-spray that area with Trashed Green and then clean with SOE and it knocks it out.

I don't do many restaurants but when I do I'll mix SOE with Grease Hawg and it works great. I'll always boost with peroxide when needed.

Jonathan 2015-10-18 06:04:47 UTC #13

That makes you an awesome resource. Thanks for the restaurant tip...SOE with Grease Hawg.

Joe 2015-10-18 10:57:20 UTC #14

It's true. I've been leaning on Todd for help making better encap products for awhile now.
He gets a free quart of 100% D'limonene in each case for helping me.
There's nothing like real cleaner input.

oxieco 2015-10-26 13:16:08 UTC #15

Great input Todd! So the Grease Hawg does not interfere with SOE at all?

todd 2015-10-26 13:47:10 UTC #16

Grease Hawg is a great high ph film forming encap that will clean the greasy restaurants all by itself. I like to mix in a crystallizer with a film former as you'll end up with something in between. I have no proof that it does anything but it gives me a little peace of mind thinking it might help prevent wick backs and that it might release easier when vacuuming.

Again, no proof but the carpets end up looking really nice.

oxieco 2015-10-26 14:07:57 UTC #17

Thank you Todd for the explanation! What about just mixing non scented ammonia to SOE? It would raise the ph, and it would not interact with the crystallizing of SOE.

todd 2015-10-26 14:35:42 UTC #18

Grease Hawg is a ph of about 12 so you'd have to add quite a bit. It also has orange terpenes. by the time you get done adding everything I'd rather just use a product that is already made and has an MSDS.

I only use it for the most part on restaurants and I don't do that many of them. I'll also use it when everything else fails.

oxieco 2015-10-26 15:29:18 UTC #19

Good point. I would be concerned though that the film and crystallizing of both encaps might be affected. Can you do a dish test when you get some free time?

dkbrestoration 2015-10-26 15:35:16 UTC #20

I think it is humorous that most cleaners, myself included, try different things and really have no explanation other than it works better. I do the same thing with chemicals although I have been exploring chemistry to try to figure out the whys.